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Does this mean I could be forced into s union membership against my will and forced to go on strike if the union so decides?听听That would be a huge reduction in my autonomy as we have seen with the tenured faculty.

As a member of the bargaining unit (Faculty) you are not forced to be a member of the bargaining agent (union). However, there will nevertheless be a deduction from your pay equivalent to whatever the union dues are, as determined by the union. The collective agreement would apply to the bargaining unit, including those not members of the bargaining agent (union). I assume that you would be on strike with the others of the bargaining unit that are on strike.

I think all 捆绑SM社区 faculty should unionize and the MAUT should transform itself into an organization that brings about this change. Otherwise the unionized groups will multiply at 捆绑SM社区 (the trend is clear) and the multiplication of unions will weaken 捆绑SM社区 staff. MAUT鈥檚 importance will wane until it becomes irrelevant.

Some of the different models of representation were presented at the Spring MAUT GM. A summary can be found in the minutes of the MAUT Council meeting of September 25, 2024 and in the Fall MAUT Newsletter

Perhaps you can start by giving us an honest description of the union recruitment process that has been initiated? It seems like it has been going on in the background since the MUNACA strike in 2011. Not sure everyone had laid their cards out openly. The process is governed by the Quebec Labor Code. There are 2 paths to certification. The employees sign union membership cards and each pay $2: (1) If this represents a majority (50%+1) of the employees in question, then there is no vote and the Quebec Tribunal administratif du travail (TAT) certifies the union. OR (b) If this represents at least 35% of the employees in question, then there is a secret ballot vote conducted by the Quebec Tribunal administratif du travail to confirm whether the relevant employees have decided to unionize. In such cases, everyone in the relevant bargaining unit can vote. If a majority (50%+1) of the relevant employees vote to unionize, then the union is certified. The Tribunal administratif du travail keeps the certification process confidential and does not share information on who signed union cards. The 3 Faculties that unionized at 捆绑SM社区 chose the first path to certification. There was no open discussion. In particular, MAUT only found out officially after 50%+1 was reached.
Would unionization increase our benefits, and would it increase 捆绑SM社区鈥檚 contributions to our pensions? I realize these would need to be negotiated, but based on all other unioned faculty in Quebec universities, have they received better or worse benefits and employer contributions to our pensions? Pension and benefits may or may not become part of a collective agreement. This depends if the matter is negotiated into the collective agreement. At 捆绑SM社区, we have a Staff Benefits Advisory Committee where all staff (unionized and non-unionized staff) have representation. The SBAC is advisory to 捆绑SM社区. Most benefits at 捆绑SM社区 are not covered by a collective agreement. For pensions there is a pensions advisory committee at 捆绑SM社区.
If unionized, would the merit-based salary policy change? If yes, how would it change? Any changes to salary policy would need to be negotiated with the administration and would require agreement between the parties.
If unionized, how will the ratio of time spent teaching, research and administration change? Any changes to salary policy would need to be negotiated with the administration and would require agreement between the parties.
I vehemently oppose the transition of MAUT from an association to a union. I feel confident in saying that many concerns of faculty in Education and Arts are not shared by those of us in Science and Medicine (and vice versa). Therefore, even if a supported unionization (I don鈥檛), one large union could never represent well the diverse interests of our diverse faculties. We have a good example of diverse constituencies being improperly served by the same union in MUNACA. Secretarial and lab staff do not belong in the same union. Summer Fridays may work for administrators, but they definitely do not work in the laboratory setting. Indeed, this is highly disruptive to our work. Science is not a 4 day per week endeavour. I cringe at the thought of some concerns of Education and Arts faculty leading to labor stoppages that would negatively impact research programs at the University. Cells and animals don鈥檛 know what weekends, holidays, or strikes are. Neither do serious scientists. Science and Medicine are large faculties. I imagine we will be strong opponents to unionization. If Arts and Education want to unionize, leave us out of it. The process is governed by the Quebec Labor Code. The appropriateness of a bargaining unit is ultimately determined by the Quebec Tribunal administratif de travail. The proposed union and employer can make representation before the Tribunal for final determination.
Since 捆绑SM社区 management is increasingly corporatized in personnel and attitude, is it not inevitable that 捆绑SM社区 professors unionize? Hard to answer. Faculty are part of 捆绑SM社区, if we go the unionization route we definitely subscribe to the corporate model and abandon the collegial governance model. Collegial in this context means collaborative in contrast to adversarial.
Although I am not a member of MAUT, I have taken your email from today as an invitation to inquire about the union you are considering of forming, as I would consider joining it.听听I am concerned about the mandate of the union when it comes to matters that are beyond representing employees in regard to salary, working conditions and so on. The mandate of a union is governed by its constitution and by the motions adopted by their governance structures. If we consider the Quebec context, it appears that unions are political and activist. They spend union dues in such activity as well as on negotiating for a collective agreement. They also support strikes with their union dues.
We have recently seen unions (UdM, FNEEQ, CEGEPS) taking political stances on matters in the Middle East. My position is that this is beyond the mandate of professional unions, especially as their leadership is not elected based on political agendas; candidates for union positions do not declare their political views and the actions they intend to take to promote them. Thus, I view such steps taken by unions as overstepping their mandate and misrepresenting a large part of their members. Yes, there is a risk for an association/union to advocate for a particular social and/or political position. However, they must abide by their respective constitutions that have been adopted by their membership.
I would like to know your position on that. I would have a problem joining a union that considers politics as part of their mandate. I would like a union that from the outset limits its actions to representing their employees (the professors and lecturers in this case) to the employer (the university) only in matters of salary, working conditions, pensions and so on. Even if you choose not to join the union you will likely be considered as part of the bargaining unit that is determined by the Tribunal administratif de travail. You would be paying the union dues equivalent and be covered by the collective agreement.
Academic freedom, and defending it, should be part of the union鈥檚 mandate. I have many worries about the union abusing their power also in this regard, but this is a complex issue and I cannot offer my opinion in just a couple of lines. However, I think that the union stance and mandate in this regard should be declared when the union forms. I view some of the actions of some of my colleagues in this regard as disruptive to the university鈥檚 mission, incitement and contrary to the values of 捆绑SM社区, and I am deeply concerned of a union that is being manipulated in that direction as has already happened with other unions. Please see answers to two and three points听above.
Typically, unions tend to normalize everyone to the lowest common denominator, providing little to no incentive for performance. Are there examples of unions that incorporates performance evaluation to define annual salary increases? Would a hybrid system, such as one that combines a base salary defined by experience (i.e., education and recognized years of experience) and annual salary increases defined by performance (e.g., research, teaching, service), be achievable? Such a system would help in making sure that everyone is treated fairly while stimulating Faculty members to shine and maintain 捆绑SM社区 among the World leading academic institutions. Union collective agreements are generally governed by years of service and progress through the ranks (PTR). There is little or no merit provided. Some do account for market differentials in some fields of study.
If there is a transition to a 捆绑SM社区 Faculty union, it will be important to make sure that individual performance-related salary increases are kept on top of a defined 鈥渂ase鈥 salary. This would need to be discussed and voted on at a union meeting.
Is it within the mandate of MAUT, under its constitution, to consider the option of unionization? MAUT must conduct itself within its own terms of reference. I think that if the MAUT leadership chooses to probe this issue, it potentially makes itself vulnerable to complaints by members who might reasonably contend that MAUT leadership inappropriately used its resources (e.g., financial, personnel, email lists) to undermine itself as an organization and to advance the interests of a union, which is outside of the terms of reference of MAUT and is not the basis upon which its leadership was elected. Perhaps the only way to address this is for MAUT to consider amending its constitution to allow itself the power to consider transforming itself into a union. This would required an amendment to the MAUT Constitution. This is not the first time that MAUT has considered a different model of representation.
At the meeting held several months ago, I heard claims made that unionization would lead to improved collegiality and financial benefits to faculty members. These claims were not justified with any supporting data. In fact, I would argue that, anecdotally, the recent creation of AMPL has resulted in a disastrous decline in collegiality, especially through social media. As such, I ask that the ad hoc committee back up ALL statements of the advantages and disadvantages of unionization with real data, not anecdotes or unsupported claims. For instance, I would like a study to demonstration that there are demonstrable financial benefits or working conditions (relative to other institutions) upon unionization. This would include a cost/benefit analysis of unionization. If we consider the mean salary data from Statistics Canada we find several non unionized universities ranking higher than some unionized universities. For example, Toronto (usually at the top of salary ranking), McMaster and 捆绑SM社区. Unionization doesn't necessarily mean better salaries and benefits.
Will the ad hoc committee arrange for formal facilitated debates between elected 鈥減ro鈥 and 鈥渃on鈥 sides (perhaps 3 to 5 on each side) to flesh out the advantages and disadvantages of unionization? Also, will such a debate occur in a manner in which they will engage with questions from the audience. I respectfully suggest that such debates should occur before any survey of sentiment is conducted so that people can properly reflect on their opinions before offering them. Currently, there is no plan for a formal debate. The suggested straw poll is a test if such a debate is of interest to our members. In my opinion we first need to understand the questions and issues our members have, hence this website. Some answers in particular where hard data is needed, will need some time to collect. Only then should and could your suggestion lead to a debate, if a substantial fraction of members are interested in such a debate.
When considering the issue of whether or not to include members of the administration in a union, given that administrative appointments are of a limited term, is it reasonable and/or fair to exclude them from the organization given (1) their representation in the organization is tiny relative to the remainder of the faculty body, and (2) that they will ultimately be impacted by decision made by the organization after they return to the ranks. Senior administration members cannot be part of a union according to Quebec Labour Law.
If we consider unionization, will there be a code of conduct for union leaders, that will reflect the broader interests of the community in maintaining collegiality, integrity and rigor in its relations with the university administration? This question is formed with the impression that the leadership of unions often resort to tactics, misinformation or outright lies (or less than complete information) that do not reflect a standard that many of our colleagues would expect in a collegial setting. As such, I am asking if the membership will be empowered within a union to keep its elected leadership accountable to the membership? In both cases, unionized and associations, this depends on what the constitution and by-laws say. These governing documents are voted on and adopted by the membership.
If unionization is being discussed by MAUT, this has important implications to all those faculty members who have chosen not to become members of MAUT. It strikes me as unfair that MAUT might start going down the road of unionization without engaging those who are not members and who will be impacted by MAUT鈥檚 action. As such, will the ad hoc committee commit to engaging with all faculty members including those who are not currently members? MAUT has not committed to unionization. Some of our members have decided to unionize, without any interaction with MAUT. Clearly, some of our colleagues (MAUT members or not) are dissatisfied with the status quo. We need to understand better what issues concern faculty, MAUT members听or not. Furthermore, many would like to have more information about alternatives (e.g. unions). This is the aim of this website.
I am not a member of MAUT yet鈥擨 was planning on doing it when I returned from sabbatical and I am now on parental leave, but I still plan to do it when I return, so forgive me if I am not allowed to ask these questions yet. Please go ahead and ask your question anyway.
1) My first question is about the cost of joining a union versus an association. My understanding is that union members are typically encouraged to pay 2% of their salary toward the union in Quebec. Assuming a salary of around $100,000/year (for simplicity's sake), that鈥檚 $2000 per year. This is currently more than three times more that it costs to be an MAUT member given that dues are fixed at 0.58% of salary. What does a union do to warrant the extra cost? Yes, union dues tend to be significantly higher than association dues. For example, MAUT and the MFA (non-unionized) have some of the lowest membership dues in the country. Also, Unions need additional funds to support potential strikes.
2) My second question is about merit pay and which kind of association is going to fight to retain it? Currently, if I am not mistaken MAUT negotiates merit pay amounts with admin. Is a faculty union going to preserve merit pay? I ask because the head of the education faculty union has made disparaging statements about merit pay publicly on at least two occasions (see attached screenshots). Currently, with merit pay plus the across-the-board (ATB) increase of 1%, if one gets a 鈥2," in the faculty of arts, one gets around a $4000 merit raise plus a $1000 ATB increase. This is, assuming a $100,000 salary, a 5% annual raise, which is compounded year to year. My understanding is that, at Concordia, the rate of increase of salaries is slower, and everyone receives the same merit pay regardless of accomplishment, e.g. publishing a book versus publishing an article. At least in my department, these are currently considered different kinds of career milestones and accomplishments. Your example perfectly illustrates the challenge of comparing different systems. No system is perfect - MAUT constantly strives to improve the transparency and fairness of merit. If the majority of our members support merit is another, separate question.
3) Are comparable faculty unions in Quebec achieving annual raises that are on par with a professor receiving an ATB raise plus merit pay in the range of a reasonable merit score plus an ATB of 1%? Could MAUT please put together something that shows the difference in the rate of salary increase using a collective agreement worked out by a peer institution (e.g. Concordia, U de M) versus the merit system/ATB system currently negotiated with MAUT? I feel like this would be helpful in deciding what kind of union is best. For 2022-2025, the salary mass increase negotiated between 捆绑SM社区 and MAUT was 14.81% . This included an across the board 1% increase, merit pot as well as new $7500 (instead of previously $5000 promotion increases. By how much the individual salaries increased is a function of the salary, as merit is a lump sum and not a % of the salary. As a comparison, Laval received 15% over 3 years. Source: .

I am writing in response to the invitation of 1 October 2024 to provide questions regarding the 4 models for MAUT going forward. My question:

Will any of the proposed models re-orient MAUT toward more inclusive representation and advocacy for all faculty?

A federation model of the MAUT would likely allow for co-operation among academic staff (unionized or not) at 捆绑SM社区.
The MAUT has remained silent on documented acts of vandalism and intimidation by protesters on campus, but released a statement (15 March 2024) of concern regarding the potential presence of law enforcement on 捆绑SM社区 campus. The MAUT has made no statement in support of faculty who are shocked and intimidated by the presence of national socialist graffiti on campus ( 捆绑SM社区 reports incidents of antisemitic graffiti and 'intimidation' | Montreal Gazette ), vandalized buildings including the James Administration building, encampment signs calling for "class warfare", and the physical disruption of lectures and laboratories. I understand your concerns. MAUT should remain neutral with respect to political statements. In general MAUT Council passes statements with a majority vote. I encourage you to engage closer with MAUT if you want to achieve a more inclusive representation. Individual members are encouraged to voice their opinion, e.g. by writing articles for the MAUT newsletter. This could lead to a useful, nuanced debate on campus and also help inform MAUT Council.

I am full supportive of the right to collective bargaining and for units to pursue this where it has sufficient support. I ambivalent about unionization for my faculty (Science) and wish to contribute my thoughts on the current context and concerns about unionization to the discussion.

Some of these workload-related problems could be addressed through collective bargaining. However, three of the principle causes of these problems are 1) the poor overall financial condition of the university, 2) a management culture that does not engage in any serious policy assessment and is allergic to all forms of accountability, and 3) our deferred maintenance and infrastructure problems. I do not believe any these can be improved through unionization, because they are related to external (political) and internal (administrative dysfunction) factors that collective bargaining simply cannot effectively address.

My second concern is related to research. I am very concerned about the potential for disruptions to research caused by future labor actions. This is based on 2 observations: 1. The administration has demonstrated itself to be maximally obstructive and obstinate when engaging with unions, making strikes seem inevitable. 2. The administration is also maximally punitive toward union members during strikes.

Like most academics, I do not view my research as work done on behalf of my employer. It contributes to my broader field and my personal reputation as a scientist, which travels with me if I leave. My research agenda is not set, overseen, or meaningfully assessed by my employer. I do not get the sense that the administration would particularly care if I stopped doing research altogether, and I desire neither their approval or commendation for the research I do. The direct costs of my research are funded by external granting agencies. Because I use these grants to pay my students鈥 tuition, I am effectively paying 捆绑SM社区 for the ability to do research. However, the bureaucratic reality is that 捆绑SM社区 owns or administers all research-related resources and controls my access to them. It is intolerable to imagine a situation where a labor action results in the loss of access to my laboratory and my ability to continue to participate in my field (apply for and review grants, submit and review papers, travel to conferences, perform experiments and supervise the research activities of graduate students, etc.). Many of us in the natural and health sciences do work where even a minimal disruption of days or weeks can have enormous impacts on our research progress and competitiveness for funding. For example, when Stewart Biology closed for a couple of weeks due to flooding and asbestos, many labs lost weeks or months of work.

My sense is that unionization would inherently involve categorizing research activities as work done for the employer, and I am certain 捆绑SM社区 would use the leverage it gains from controlling these resources to undermine bargaining and negotiations. For me to support unionization would require a guarantee that labor actions would be exclusive to teaching and university service activities, and a guarantee that access to research facilities and related resources (ability to apply for grants, approve purchases, email, IT resources, etc.) would be undisturbed during such actions. I would strongly oppose any bargaining position or collective agreement that did not explicitly contain these provisions, and I would encourage my colleagues in laboratory-based research to do the same

Hello, just a note that I strongly support unionization at 捆绑SM社区. I do so because of several reasons:

1. Unionization is the norm in Quebec.

2. Generally speaking unionization is increasing in North America at this moment, and it is a good thing to have in place for a more just workplace environment.

3. We have seen multiple times during and after the pandemic that 捆绑SM社区 administration can make unilateral decisions and impose them on us faculty members and staff with no explanation. These decisions have affected almost every aspect of our teaching and workplace experience at 捆绑SM社区 - from how we teach to what we teach (this has been less pronounced but there are many warning signs that in the future what we teach will become an ideological battleground) to when and where we teach, to our salaries and the possibilities of future hiring and the health of our disciplines.

a. In stating this, I do not take the view that the 捆绑SM社区 administration is acting maliciously or even cynically or opportunistically. Rather, I think that the leadership is severely dysfunctional. Because many of the administrative positions at 捆绑SM社区 seem to lack training or clear incentivization, it's just bad leadership over and over. There is also a tradition of a lack of transparency, and the decisions often seem hasty and ill-considered, in part because most of us faculty do not have access to the contexts in which they were made. Particularly given the difficult financial situation, budget decisions should be available to us, the employees, for true consultation. This has never really been the case.

In sum, unionization is the only way forward. I am not going to mourn the demise of MAUT if it is replaced by a union that actually has teeth.

Is it possible to reconcile formal cooperation between MAUT and Faculty unions (Models 3 and 4) with the principle of academic freedom? The answer depends on how Academic Freedom is defined. MAUT, Senate, CAUT, academic unions and the Quebec Government have attempted to define Academic Freedom. To my knowledge, striking is not considered to be a breach of Academic Freedom. A strike might infringe on one's Academic Freedom but the law allows for the collective rights of a union to conduct a strike which has financial, social and political consequences that are considered to be legally acceptable.
Academic freedom is fundamental to MAUT鈥檚 mandate, which certainly includes the ability to teach, conduct research, and speak freely on scholarly matters. At the same time, to function properly and effectively, a union must be able to call and enforce strikes, a power enshrined in Quebec law.
Having some Faculties represented by unions (Arts, Education, and Law) while others are not, brings these two principles into conflict. Indeed, as we saw in the summer of 2024, when AMPL (with only 50 or so members) disrupted thousands of scholars gathered for the Congress of Learned Societies and attempted to coerce speech (support for AMPL) as a condition of participation. There are several campuses across the country that have multiple unions representing their academic staff. As far as we are aware, the points you raise have never been听debated e.g. at CAUT or FQPPU.
Should any of the three existing unions 鈥 or any future Faculty union 鈥 call a strike, it would infringe on the academic freedom of non-union faculty members. This would include, but is not limited to, courses cross-listed or cross-taught between a striking and non-unionized Faculty, and cross-administered degree programs (e.g., BASc, BA programs in Scienced departments, etc.) Classrooms and lecture spaces are also shared across campus, so even if a striking union only picketed 鈥渢heir鈥 buildings, it would disrupt the teaching activities and other scholarly activities of non-union members. If a striking union pickets campus as a whole, the effect would be even more severe. A strike might infringe on one's Academic Freedom but the law allows for the collective rights of a union to conduct a strike which has financial, social and political consequences that are considered to be legally acceptable.
Hence MAUT鈥檚 support for the academic freedom of its non-unionized members would conflict directly with the union鈥檚 interest and right to strike. Does this not rule out a formal agreement or cooperation between MAUT and any faculty union? If not, how would the conflict between these two principles be resolved? It depends on the details of the agreement. A strike by one of the three unions could potentially infringe on the academic freedom of non-union members and members of the other unions if the latter decide not to go on strike (see above).
I am deeply opposed to unionizing, especially the sort of forced unionization I can see coming. I do not want labor actions to disrupt my research, which I do not see as being done for 捆绑SM社区. No matter what the union鈥檚 policy on this is, the University goes for lock-out during labor disputes, so I don鈥檛 think this can be avoided if there is a strike. I definitely do not want to give up a large chunk of salary that I will never, ever gain benefit from. I especially resent skimming from my salary to cover strike funds, given that I oppose unionization. Many of my colleagues in my field are envious that we are not unionized (or at least they say so in discussions at conferences). I am especially leery given the recent tendency of local unions to throw support around on issues that are not labor-related. Is there any way to set up a union so this is not possible? Unions (like everything else) are dominated by the tiny minority who care a lot about something, often to the detriment of everyone else. I have no desire to add to my workload by having to keep track of stupid petty votes about weighing in on policies that have nothing to do with collective bargaining. Good questions, looking forward to the answers from the'pro union' side of this forum.
Could you clarify the role of MAUT vis-脿-vis unionization efforts? Is MAUT as an organization actively seeking to transform itself into a union? Were the successful unionization drives in Arts, Education, Law, and current efforts in Dentistry and Engineering conducted independently of MAUT?

1.) No, MAUT is not seeking to transform itself to a union. MAUT constitutional changes would be necessary if this were envisioned (see below). 2.) Yes, the succeeful unionization drives in Law, Education and Arts were conduted independantly of MAUT. Similalry, we only know of rumours of efforst by Dentistry and Engineering to unionize. In all cases of unionoization, MAUT was only informed after the successful union drives, although individual MAUT members from these Faculties knew. There was no advanced notice or discussions, thus taking many MAUT members including some colleagues in Law, Education and Arts by surprise. This was arguably not a collegial process. Note: We cannot vote on a constitutional amendment at a GM unless the notice for the GM includes a statement of the proposed amendment. Amendments to the Constitution must be presented at a General Meeting (GM).
Notice of the GM would need to include a statement of the proposed amendment(s).
Only Full Members (not Associate Members or Retired Members) may vote at the GM.

For further info, please see Articles XIV and VII s4 of the MAUT Constitution

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